here is another bright idea......

Motorists 'to be handed speeding convictions even if they're 1mph over limit'

In my view this is idiocy taken to the next level........how the "sexual intercourse" is a motorcyclist going to be able, and most of all "safely able" to make sure she/he is not even one mile over the speed limit........????
Forget about scanning for road conditions, traffic, hazards of any kind and idiots on mobile phones......keep your eyes glued to the clocks and we will all be fine ............money you save on the speeding tickets, could go towards your funeral costs.....

A quote from the article....

"I do not want the public to be surprised, I want them to be embarrassed when they get caught.

“They need to understand the law is set at the limit for a reason.

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A lot of the time it is fairly obvious why a road has a limit - it's narrow, urban/sub-urban, loads of junctions, etc etc. The problem is that the reason for the limit is not always immediately obvious and in fact is all too frequently not set around a safe speed but for spurious reasons such as creating a non-preferential route (e.g. a low limit on a rat-run to dissuade you from using it), for environmental reasons (reduce CO2 or road noise), to manage traffic flow, or just being obnoxiously politically correct (Derbyshire and its blanket 50 limit and 40 or 50 limits on dual carriageways for miles as they leave town). How the feck they expect the motorist to work out why a road has a specific limit other than the obvious is beyond me.

I think he must have been the self-righteous prig I heard on R4 earlier. I agree with Austin - many limits are fine, imposed for sensible reasons and deserve to be "obeyed". However, there are more and more "spurious" limits that, it seems to me, are there a) because the authorities can do so, and b) because they will lead to vast amounts of money being extracted from the motorist. They are nothing to do with safety, or indeed environmental considerations... purely money-motivated.

In my opinion this daft arsed idea is probably unenforceable as police numbers are dropping by the day, and those left have too much to do anyway.

Andy.

Easy,

Come up here --- no limit
In certain places

Stoopid laws supported by an Art Garfunkle lookalike.

I am assuming they have the technology available to enforce this ?
Maybe static yellow vultures , but hand held ? in car ? --- doubt it.

Lowflyer said:

Easy,

Come up here --- no limit
In certain places

Stoopid laws supported by an Art Garfunkle lookalike.

I am assuming they have the technology available to enforce this ?
Maybe static yellow vultures , but hand held ? in car ? --- doubt it.

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Don't kid yourself Lowflier mate, last year the french introduced mobile radar cars that get you if you overtake, if you're behind them or in front of them or even if you pass them going the other way. More to the point, they have just privatised the running of these vehicles...

they also now have speed cameras set up in small trailers, capable of flashing up to 4 lanes in both directions...

we are now having a sweepstake about how long before nobody has a driving licence any more

Tony Varadero said:

In my view this is idiocy taken to the next level........how the "sexual intercourse" is a motorcyclist going to be able, and most of all "safely able" to make sure she/he is not even one mile over the speed limit........????

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It'll be like those stretches with average speed cameras. Everybody is doing 10 under the limit, at best, and with their heads stuck through the steering wheel facing the clocks, overtaking with <1mph differences on all lanes. That sort of traffic is so tense it's unbelievable.

“They need to understand the law is set at the limit for a reason."

But they never explain the reason do they?

A speed limit is in essence an arbitrary stab at a continuum between undeniably too slow (10 mph!) and undeniably too fast (200 mph!), rounded to the nearest zero. You never see a speed limit of 57 mph do you? So this speed limit system has a built in 10 mph precision. If it were sensible you'd have a system where in a 50 mph speed limit you're still good as long as it starts with a 5. If it starts with a 6, you're doing 10 over already and then it's fair enough for them to get all zero tolerance hardarse about that.

But besides that, any meaning has long since been lost anyway, with national limits and stuff. So you get 40 mph limits on those typically English twisty country lanes with 10 ft hedges on either sides, blind corners, grass in the middle of the road and narrow enough that a van will scrape both sides.

Like this. You'd be suicidal to try 40 mph on one of those, nevermind 41.



And yet that same 40 mph limit is in effect here, where you can see for miles...



(Granted, that last 40 mph limit might've been fractured just a wee bit. )

It's all cargo culting, repeating dogma and being utterly fundamentalist about it. They've got religion and they're treating it as if it were the sound barrier.

Lewisham has gone entirely 20mph. Except on the red routes that are not controlled by the local council. Even the red routes have 20mph outside schools. But speed limits do not apply to cyclists. So a cyclist coming down a hill into a 20mph limit at about 30mph is no danger to a kid in the road, apparently.

There is another sheep hiding behind that whynn bush.

MooN said:

Don't kid yourself Lowflier mate, last year the french introduced mobile radar cars that get you if you overtake, if you're behind them or in front of them or even if you pass them going the other way. More to the point, they have just privatised the running of these vehicles...

they also now have speed cameras set up in small trailers, capable of flashing up to 4 lanes in both directions...

we are now having a sweepstake about how long before nobody has a driving licence any more

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Yes i remember one summer the "same broken down" car that sat at the bottom of the hill all summer on the A13 just below where the a29 from LeHavre joined it , happily flashing out of its back window at passing motorists