Fitting fecking tyres

[austin]

Anyone had this before? How did you solve it….

New Annakee adventure tyres going on tubeless rims. F&R.

Everything was relatively easy until I got the new tyres on the rims. Feck me it’s like they are half an inch+ too big (diameter). I got the rear to grip the rim eventually using a ratchet strap around it and a four others wrapped round the wheel and tyre. But the front, honestly it’s like it’s 20inch diameter. It rattles around on the rim. The beads are very close to each other and drop into the wheel’s well too easily. I’ve tried the same straps trick, I took it to a workshop with a big powerful compressor, and the local bike place-who did have a bloody good go before giving up, oh and so much lube the wife should be getting worried. All no result.

I’ve given up for today but left the tyre removed from the rim but with an old inner tube in it blown up to about 80 psi to try and open up the beads. I gave it half an hour of heat stretching under a patio heater and hopefully after a cool night the tyre will take on a new shape that’s easier to seat.

Anyone else?. How did you fix it?

 

[Alba]

Never tried fitting tyres looks like i've made the right decision based on the hassle you are having, good luck.

 

[austin]

Rob the difficult bit us usually breaking the bead. Once that’s done getting tyre off then on is mostly technique- which I sometimes have and sometimes don’t. Today was a “have” day. Not getting a seal at all when inflating a tubeless tyre is new to me. I’ve had tyres not wanting to pop on properly but never this.

 

[Hudders]

Knowing you, this is a dumb question but it is the correct size?
I have had tyres that are bad yo fit some times, but not as far out as your saying. Can you get a replacement from where you bought it?

 

[austin]

Knowing you, this is a dumb question but it is the correct size?
I have had tyres that are bad yo fit some times, but not as far out as your saying. Can you get a replacement from where you bought it?

You sound like my wife. Yes correct size. 110/80-19. Tyre came from Demon Tweeks about 2months back when I spotted a good deal on pairs - seconds more like. Worst case, I’ll fit a tube for a while and try again.

Tbh I think the tyres have been stored a long time and have been compressed slightly so the beads are almost touching when the tyre is at rest. That’s the problem. The well of the wheel is also quite deep and wide with steep shoulders. That makes for easy tyre off and on but with this tyre not so easy to get the bead to grip. Nevertheless I’ll get it on one way or another.

 

[Hudders]

How about putting a tube into tyre and inflating it off the rim to stretch it back, put it somewhere warm overnight?

 

[yen_powell]

Have you tried it with the valve core removed so the air from the compressor gets in faster?

 

[Lowflyer]

Good shout Yen.
Think you are right about the tyres being stored Austin, I had the same issue with the old beemer I had, but they were lying for about 15 years
Let us know how you get on anyway.

 

[austin]

Right sorted it but needed pro help.

Stretching the tyre with an inner tube overnight certainly helped open it up. But not enough for my puny compressor and tyre was still loose on the wheel. Strapping didn’t really work again. The local worshop’s airline wouldn’t do it either and the local truck/farm tyre fitters wouldn’t put their bead blaster on it as it is specc’d for tractor tyres and highly likely to damage my little wheel, it having very little real control over the pressure it will achieve.

But a motorcycle tyre fitting place in Lancaster got it on ‘just like that’. He said it was luck as he didn’t do anything special and when I first showed him the problem he didn’t think it would go on without a bead blaster which he didn’t have. Lots of air and a little jiggle and on it went. Anyway it’s on. Hurrah.

Yes, valve core out - always - to set the bead then re inflate to proper pressure with the core back in. Those hanging umbrella shaped electrical patio heaters are ace tyre warmers. These Anakee adventures are very soft and pliable when warm.

Wheel back in tomorrow along with new brake pads all round and a tour of the bike with the oil can to lube anything that moves and we are ready for our 2023 big Euro trip. This time in two weeks we should be somewhere in Northern France.

 

[Mervin]

My mate when fitting plant tyres used to use actylene this one looks dodgy to me

 

[Mervin]

 

[Rubberchicken]

Yeah I don't think that works so well with narrow stiff sidewall bike tyres. Gotta love applied fizzicks though.

 

[austin]

I’ve seen videos like that before Merv. I understood it was the Icelanders who did it first as they run tyres with such low pressures on ice fields riding off the rim us a constant risk bI wouldn’t chance it with painted alloy wheels and thin motorcycle tyres except in the direst circumstances.